A red female puppy this time. I dont think so. THE WHITES NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH BAD SKIN OR EYESIGHT OR HEARING! I had a red dobie for 13 yearsmy white is no differentno added health issues. It almost kllled my dog and I was not told what to watch out for..Needless to say she and my Mom take the same pill, lucky for me. Im assuming the person who wrote this article never needs sunglasses! Her eyes are a little sensitive to bright light until they adjust. to begin with, all breeders regardless of the creature they breed should start thinking about what they do: the modify little helpless lifes and cause much suffering. Ive seen mine run circles around other breeds here like the Labs. They are HEALTHY, Happy, Loving, Stable friends. However, she is overly friendly with EVERYONE and very healthy. its not that they are bad dogs yall need to get off your high horses just understand that as far as breed standard is concerned they are frowned upon My advice is to start with a doberman that has excellent genetics/temperament. My fawn does have skin allergies, but we are able to keep it under control, with no hair loss and his coat is shiny. He has no signs of cancer. But he was gentle as could be around them. Cleo.guarded the children from day one and would stop my wife from crossing any road diagonally it was 90 degrees or Cleo would lean on the pram or pushchair so my wife had to follow Cleos wishes! It is seen as inhumane to the dog due to the potential for serious health concerns. Dobie Ranch Rescue and Doberman rescue of Lake Placid are also two good rescues. (I canNOT be out of her sight!) MysticPink, or anyone else that may be having trouble with allergies, gas, itching, hives, rashes, bad breath, picky eaters.please feel free to contact me, as well:). Breeding any dogs should be outlawed in my opinion the shelters are crowded with purebreds and mutts alike. I USE Z FACTOR DOGS IN MY CURRENT LINE AS THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL & EXCELLENT MINDED DOGS! Since one white and one black allel means a black (and tan/rust) dog, and the white allel is rare, people can have white-carrier dogs without ever find out. You are very fortunate to have been blessed with your Dober-pal. Your Doberman will be fine. I knew he would naturally. Im getting the Blue and red ones. Any reputable Dobe breeder will react with horror at the idea of continued or purposed breeding of these poor dogs. It stands on its pads and is not usually heavy-footed. We figured out how to get him to do what I wanted but it took some work. The goal in breeding is to better each individual breed. So sad I was really looking forward to puppies , You are unselfish. Ive had German lineage Black and Rust Dobes (larger more stout and a bit calmer), American bred Black and Tan and my favorite an American Red (brown and rust). I take hm almost everywhere that I can and receive compliments on his look and temperament too. Continuing to introduce white Dobermans into breeding lines is doing a great disservice to the breed in general. If I was going to go to the beach with her, I have her doggles and sun screen just like I would for my blond haired, blue eyed kids. There are people in this terribly troubled and divisive world that dont deserve to have the loyalty and unconditional love that most any dog will give openly and freely, even if they do not receive the same comfort and respect from their companion. Very few Dobes carry the recessive white, and fewer carry the gene close enough to override and produce. What I find truly aweful about this entire string of comments to dates back to July of 2008 is the fact that there is so much venom and passion about the z factor dobies but its all a senseless argument. In fact, we were there yesterday as I purchased another Doberman. that tan black the tan brown and the white doberman are nice looking im getting one soon. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. Why us americans have single handedly ruined or waterd down any good dogs they ever touched, do some reading and you will have to agree.. We bring dogs in this country and brred them until they cannot do what it was intended to do we make them all couch potatoes show dogs and change the way they are suposed to look so much they just couldnt to a job even if they wanted to. Thank you , so sad anyone would want to encourage breeding white Dobermans, knowing the health problems they will have to endure. Maybe you should be the one doing more research. Thanks. He was almost human in his intelligence, and it was a sneaky intelligence to boot. I lost my best friend 2 and a half years ago. My first doberman was with us some more than 13 years. There was a white Doberman at the humane society in my town the last time I went. they are all incredible dogs just be responsible. Historically known as the dog breed for the tax collectors, Doberman Pinschers have earned the reputation of being the most dangerous dogs in the canine world. Realistically, none of this makes a difference. They are worth because of the love they give not because of how many contests they can win. But most of them will. I started with a potassium tab that you can get at almost any store. New Life kennels in Idaho has the best Dobies youll ever find! I grew up with black and reds, and I would like to get another Black and a white. So the fact hearts stop instantly and the dog dies just didnt make any sense to me. So glad you came along. That is the equivalent of cutting out a womans ovaries and a mans testicles without their consent. My grandmother had white and cream dobermans and she bread them. my first time breeding a dobe i got black, red, fawn, white and cream. Their temperments were all wonderful and they were glorious blessings. I read your stories about your three Dobermans. Just had her ECG and all done at just past 11 and still everything perfect. Little did I know at the time the classification of WZ would come to haunt my wallet and health of our new pup. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. i will also say that certain people shouldnt be allowed to breed either (like know it alls that are never happy with their own lives) but they do. Blue eyes is actually a lack of pigment in the iris. But congrats on your all black doberman there are a few of us out here that want them to be recognized especially since all the false reports on them, and they are not from inbreeding. I have a comment about the white doberman puppies. Im currently in contact with a man in West Virginia who listed his 5 year old dobe on Craigslist for free.. All I would say is Cleo Beckys got you now and she would not pull. As I told them you do not want an American Doberman. When he started to try to walk she was right there to make sure he didnt fall wrong or to hard. If you believe that this is not a good practice, then maybe you should educate yourself about WHY there is a reason it is frowned upon. Helene VanHining Rockford IL am listed on AKC web site. I have taken in many dogs that were not purebred and wonderful animals. I have previously had 4dobies and one of them was born deformed. I am familiar with the Triad rescue and i am approved by them. She does not have any health problems what so ever! yes the whites are known to have health issues, the blacks seem ok and are rarely found anyway. Compared to intact dogs, neutered and spayed dogs had a 3.5 times higher risk of developing mast cell cancer, regardless of what age they were neutered. I didnt pay them any heed however I was in for a painful surprise. It is a FACT they are prone to way more health problems than the other color variations. The difference is obvious at first glance, but on careful study, you will see how much of the original Doberman Pinscher has been deleted from its current U.S. counterparts. Rainbow Haus Dobermans in Eland, WI was owned by Brigette Block, until, God Rest Her Soul, she passed away. check out the website dogfoodanalysis.com I actually own a beautiful white doberman named Kapone and he is my baby. Do you know if both of her parents were white? Other than its color points, which immediately identify this dog as a Doberman, (or a branch of the ancient Rottweiler) the differences are so dramatic that it may need to be classified as a new breed. Howdy. the white and the SOLID black are to be avoided. [2] The Dobermann has a long muzzle. If it has two, it bcomes white. I purchased a red puppy whose dad is red and mom is white. Think I can pass him off as a He has been checked over by a vet several times and has no vision or health problems. She was only one year old when we rescued her from death row and despite persistent training, she is still very very stupid. Help? Weimie ?:). I think not.. after reading as much of your snarkiness that I could stomach. Hes now 10 years old, and has fatty cysts all over him. My friend said she expected to see her carrying him down the hall to me to take care of what ever he might need at the time. The only reason I am writing is because as I was reading through I found one message that said get rid of the whites no time for bad dogs writen by miller! However it is discouraged to breed these Dobermans because of their health issues. Please dont justify ignorant human actions and behavior with a book and history that you have proved you have no comprehension of. I dont know if he was inbreed. Its been recorded that one champion white even bit his judge prior to winning. your arguments are the same bullshit that the DPCA has been touting for years. Considered an undesirable gene mutation. I will eventually get another dobie but I need to get past loosing Galileo. I love him to pieces. Though I imagine Albino and partial albino dobermans popped up all throughout its history. In the last year I registered him as ESA, that way I never had to deal with apartments telling me they wont renew my lease bc they believe my dog is a Doberman. Shes sweet and gentle and no problems so far (other than too much love licks). But I will say that i have never spent so much money on vet bills on any dog Ive ever owned in my life. your inbred dog still has unethical genetics. Lol. only bred to look americanized for the show.. And nothing like what they wer origanly bred for. But it did the trick. They were taught you give kisses no bite. Would like to tell you my story. She was our next to last Doberman and miss all of them so much. These last two Doberman colors, the greys, and fawns are sometimes discouraged from breeding. NO health issues or behavioral issues at all! Both are great but only with a reputable breeder. I am 66 years old, and am on my 5th DobermanPerhaps my last and it is unthinkable for me not to not have one. Not all white Dobermans are problematic and they can still make great companions. My white may squint in the sun but so do I! Its a domesticated animal (we) as responsible adults are to look out for their well being, And yes I encourage this because youre saving the animal giving it a healthier life. albinos have pink eyes. The animal is still considered an albino, however, because it carries an albinistic mutation. We have two beautiful donors with no health conditions both albino! Some people want purebred dogs from a RELIABLE source. Steve H. Your Cleo sounds like our Athana who was an exceptional dog. To the guy that said the bull mastiff came about by interbreeding other bull mastiffs you are an idiot. Religious bashing is rude. There is NO KNOWN HEALTH ISSUES WITH ALL BLACK DOBERMANS they are just rare. They are NOT albino because the gene masks the color. in San Francisco whos up for adoption. No. Dobermans have a specific temperament that was bred to protect their owners they are also very well tempered around children and people. Im glad we were in the right place to give this sweet, HEALTHY dog a loving home. After evaluating Katie, her owners and the circumstances of the biting, we did not hesitate adopting her. The winner as expected was the black & tan color with 62% of the votes, with the reds in second place with 24%. Why would someone breed for this on purpose???? He was rescued, so his ancestry was unknown. Also, consumers and dog lovers need to be educated about the health concerns of these dogs. I believe this is a huge factor. her eyes are sensitive to the sun and she does seem to have a somewhat sensitive stomach. Amen, Michelle. Treat them right and the will do the same. Shes a doll, and we dont have any issues, but its crap about her eyes being normal. The first documented albino Doberman, Sheba, was born on November 10, 1976. Ear cropping is optional, however I like the appearance of the cut ears, it is illegal to cut the Dobermans ears in some European countries. And if they actually do their research the White Doberman has been around from the beginning. Never hurts to have all the facts. skin, stomach, ear, breathing etc? I have been a little crazy since as he is like yours, just as friendly and loving as can be and a little velcro. Thanks, Ok this is crazy! Hi, my name is Calin Scridon and I went to the site to see the material and the comments. More >>, Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Contact. And she has bright pink skin that burns easily. If they are healthy, they are an attractive byproducts of the current standard. I am looking for a blue and tan puppy to join her but the only litter I have found seems to be for a lady that has v negative feedback from. 3. These cream, or as some say white ones, were first documented in the 1920s as being a dirty or apricot color. White dobermans are actually light cream main colored with white markings. so its ok to cut boys peniss but dont touch dog ears? Standards change when there is enough demand by the breeders. Hope you will sell me your dog. Every pedigree dog has been interbred at its early stage in history to obtain the desired looks etc that are required from it. She is 7 month old and so beautiful. Great looking dog, although someone did a hack job on his ears. Then she bought a black and rust European bred puppy from a totally different breeder. Doesnt matter which color has your doberman, matter is you have a doberman. I cant take him anywhere without people asking if hes a show dog. It was the antibiotic of choice in a few countries for 2000 years b4 penicillin and then it was all but forgotten about. U sound like an idiot! Smh . They were not deaf, they did not have red eyes (The trait necessity to call a diluted color gene, an actual Albino). And she does not look her age. They are very fearless, curious, and playful. One of my customers told me about a documentary on Netflix called Petfooled. Comic . In most mammals (including humans) true albinos have pink eyes because they have no pigment at all. and there is word that her mother had a albino male ina previous litter that died at a young age that was probably destroyed because he was not a breedable color. Do you know they can get cancer if you dont get them fixed? White dobermans can be sickly or healthy as can ANY other dog. Cubo Magico 10x10, Moyu Meilong 2x2 3x3 4x4 *5 *5 6x6 7x7 8x8 9x9 10x10 11x11 12x12 Cubo Megaminx Cubos Mgicos Velocidad Puzzle Cubos Juguetes Cubo -Magico, LiangCuber Moyu Meilong Cubo de velocidad de 10 x 10 pulgadas, sin etiquetas, cubo mgico de 10 x 10 x 10 pulgadas and behind the bar gravel parking lots. We have had white dobie who had many health problems such as Addisons disease, fear biter,Couldnt seeand Blue dobie who was the most beautiful boy Ive ever seen. Ie, If a black dog has one partial ablbinism gene, it becomes blue. they are just another color variation such as the red or blue. Bottom lineits irresponsible to propagate unhealthy breeding. She was a faded Isabella, very pale tan. and this was n the warly 80s. if these dogs , and i say if mind you have more health , and behaviour problems than the other dobermans please dont breed these white dogs . First one Ive seen. How is Duke? Purebred dogs aside from a few breeds like the Komondor (a very large mop dog) are not at all family friendly by nature and are originally bred for WORK, not to keep as a pet. Youll see for yourself the conclusion and stance that the Doberman community has taken on this. It is an albino full of health problems and should never be bred. I had one that absolutely refused to use the try the dog door, and when he attempt to bite me, after multiple treats of encouragement, I just thought, the last thing I could have is having my children bitten. Good morning. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. He just seems like an old soul with a great sense of humor and there are times when we all know that he is the one training us! In the meanwhile we put aside all our reservation about getting a puppy. But i would not recommand to buy a white. Sara : there is nothing wrong with white dobermans. The issue with white Dobermans is that all white Dobermans are severely inbred. Ill introduce myself and more than one different color Doberman. Hello to all, my family and myself have bred and raised Dobermans for over 40 years. Please contact me with information on this matter. I have owned a white puppy because my red female and black and tan male made 4 white puppies. When my last child was born you would have thought he was her puppy. We had already fell in love with her, and she is a part of our family so we of course began treatment. Thinking I should get the Red female. https://www.sfspca.org/adoptions/pet-details/41201970. 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